Star Tours upgrade / Star Wars land (Rumours)

[lil-shawn]

I did read, that Star Tours - The Adventure Continues cost was approx. $50 million for both WDW and DL...
These would be 35 - 40 million euros.. Now i realy wanna know where is the problem not to get it at DLP...

It would be perfect for the 20th because they can promote the attraction on the beginning of Star Wars 3D next year and
also they can promote the parks 20th. Another misstake they will do, because now they would have the chance to
promote all over europe and may get more visitors ect. but the manegement and marketing are to lazy to do it right.!

Sometimes you realy get the feeling they don´t want to. They didn´t enough Promotion for TOT, Captain EO ect. all over Europe. Also they didn´t take the opportunity to promote the park in Germay while other countrys were in recission. A little bit research won´t hurt them and dont cost a lot of money.. sorry but i don´t buy anything mr. gas is saying or the onther persons invovled. They are liars and dont have any clue....

[dagobert]

I did read, that Star Tours - The Adventure Continues cost was approx. $50 million for both WDW and DL...
These would be 35 - 40 million euros.. Now i realy wanna know where is the problem not to get it at DLP...

It would be perfect for the 20th because they can promote the attraction on the beginning of Star Wars 3D next year and
also they can promote the parks 20th. Another misstake they will do, because now they would have the chance to
promote all over europe and may get more visitors ect. but the manegement and marketing are to lazy to do it right.!

Sometimes you realy get the feeling they don´t want to. They didn´t enough Promotion for TOT, Captain EO ect. all over Europe. Also they didn´t take the opportunity to promote the park in Germay while other countrys were in recission. A little bit research won´t hurt them and dont cost a lot of money.. sorry but i don´t buy anything mr. gas is saying or the onther persons invovled. They are liars and dont have any clue....

I read the same on the Blue Sky Disney-Blog and if you take in account that DLRP was willing to spend over €70mio for three carnival rides, then I really don't get it. I think ED SCA will be forced by TWDC and George Lucas to bring ST II to Paris. George Lucas always wants to use the newest technology, which isn't always the best, and I can't imagine that he wants to see his product how it is presented in Paris. Most people associate Star Tours with Star Wars instead of Disney.

[davewasbaloo]

Bonkers huh, We have a terrible carnival in WDSP that cost more than a Star Tours make over. Although the expense in Paris would be the language dubbing. Unless they just popped in the US attraction in english (that would be cool, but wouldn't happen).

[CafeFantasia]

I wonder if wonder if that $50 million included the ride film by ILM, or if George Lucas paid for part of it? Given Lucas' wealth, I can imagine him wanting to spend his own money to make sure the ride film was as high quality as possible, and not to be constrained or restricted by Disney's budget.

[dagobert]

I wonder if wonder if that $50 million included the ride film by ILM, or if George Lucas paid for part of it? Given Lucas' wealth, I can imagine him wanting to spend his own money to make sure the ride film was as high quality as possible, and not to be constrained or restricted by Disney's budget.

I wonder if George Lucas is happy to see Star Wars in a Disney park? Don't you think that Universal would be a better place for him? I think at Universal he would have the chance to create a whole Star Wars or Indinana Jones land and since Steven Spielberg is involved with Universal Creative, I can imagine that he considered to collaborate with them. Maybe the contract with Disney doesn't allow that. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that Indy and Star Wars, both are one of my favorite franchises, are part of the Disney Themepark Universe, but recently Disney is on the cheaper side of creating new rides, while Universal created some of the best attractions recently.

[lil-shawn]

And this happens when an attraction gets a big promotion. Funny because this is just the Star Tours Early Departure Private Event. Look at this Huge quee Line



How crazy will it be on June 3rd when the Ride oficial opens at DL?

Another proof, that an updatet Attraction can bring in crows, as long as you make a good and big promotion.
Many say, we won´t look at the business site of Disney, i do and i see that DLP don´t know how to bring in
many european visitors. Sorry but this park is lost, they even don´t have $50 million wich is btw. peanuts for them.

Oh hold on maybe this money is spent on the Magical memories festival

[davewasbaloo]

While I agree with many of your sentiments Lil Shawn, also remember that Disneyland has over 500,000 annual pass holders, 90% of which live within a 3 hour drive. That is a huge difference compared to PAris. Also add in that DL has a very different culture than all the other resorts, with 56 years of loyalty (that is not based on characters).

From why I have observed on some message boards and real life, there is a huge group of folks in Europe that go to see kids dressed up in rubberhead costumes. Sad fact.

[dagobert]

That line is huge, but since it is only 8 o'clock in the morning, I think this is a special preview for visitors with annual passes. Nevertheless DLRP needs more promotion! Each year they are spending a lot of money on meet and greets, shows and new festivals, but there is no money for an upgrade of Star Tours II.

[Anthony]

Imagine this commercial playing out across Europe instead of that obnoxious "We're going to Disneyland!" girl...


YouTube link

Good to see someone (Blue Sky Disney) has finally put a price on the upgrade, I've been waiting for that figure for months. Although no doubt $50m would convert almost directly to €50m for Paris. At that price, and choosing my words carefully, I do think Toy Story Playland is the more "shrewd" investment for the parks (if we have to compare everything to Toy Story Playland.....)

But it makes me wonder how Euro Disney SCA look at the cost/benefit of investments like this... Wouldn't they increase the benefit by upgrading it sooner, riding on the huge publicity DL and WDW are creating, rather than investing the same amount in a few years when the excitement has gone? That would seem to be similar cost for much less benefit.

[dagobert]

That's indeed a great commercial. We had already a discussion about this one and other commercials in the US Star Tours II topic in the international thread. It is so much better than all DLRP commercials of the recent years.

I also don't understand why ED SCA doesn't want to invest in Star Tours II. Lucasfilm brings Star Wars back to the big screen and all six movies will be released for the first time on BluRay. It would be the perfect moment to bring the ride to Paris.

I think we compare TSPL with other attractions, because Disney spent a lot of money on that land and in my opinion it is one of the worst cost/benefit investment of Disney.

By the way take a look at this article. Alain Littaye has posted an article about a fantastic Star Wars ride concept, which wasn't designed by WDI:
http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2011/ ... rring.html

[Lorum]

People are talking about the imminent closure of Captain EO.

The new expansion of Discoveryland is supossed to be named "Star Tours Land", completed in 2015 and is rumored to consist of:

· Star Tours 2: The Adventures Continue.
· La Cantina Restaurant (supposed to replace Buzz Lightyear Pizza Planet).
· Jedi Training Academy (new attraction inside HISTA building).
· A new attraction (?).

I've made a beautiful map lol.



Left green area = 1,44 Ha = 14.000 m2 approx.
Right green area = 0,5 Ha = 5.000 m2 approx.

Let's comment!

[Anthony]

People are talking about the imminent closure of Captain EO.

The new expansion of Discoveryland is supossed to be named "Star Tours Land", completed in 2015 and is rumored to consist of:

· Star Tours 2: The Adventures Continue.
· La Cantina Restaurant (supposed to replace Buzz Lightyear Pizza Planet).
· Jedi Training Academy (new attraction inside HISTA building).
· A new attraction (?).

I've made a beautiful map lol.

Left green area = 1,44 Ha = 14.000 m2 approx.
Right green area = 0,5 Ha = 5.000 m2 approx.

Let's comment!

Sounds good, will be interesting to see if this comes true.

[Glstitch]

People going nuts these days....

[|Q|]

For what i've read on DCP (google-translated), they say the cantina (super awesome) restaurant would go in the former captain eo theater, and the Jedi Training Academy show will be held at the Videopolis Theatre (meh).

Whyle i'm joyfyl of more (and cooler) Star Wars in the park (and for how much is needed a revamp back there), actually i'd really prefer a world where a proper Star Wars Land in the Studios with the new Star Tours, Mos Esley with the cantina and some walk through attraction (and of course the relocated X-Wing), and later on, with no hurry, when the new Soarin Over the World is available, our Da Vinci based Soarin' in the back of Discoveryland, fitting just in in the theme of the land. But i don't see them demolish a building to built the same building in the park next door, lol.

Q

[Columbiad]

This rumour crushes all my hopes of a Discoveryland thats on par with DisneySea's Mysterious Island and Port Discovery - Star Wars belongs in the Studio! Give me Vinci or Verne or Wells any day!

I'd love it if the entrance side of Space Mountain represented a space-port and the other side (the EO side) was to represent the destination, (which would make sense for quests disembarking from SM in an alien planet.) I'll love to see a strange new word, made to look although it had been colonised by these Victorian retro-future folk. I imagine a landscape of the typical Discoveryland rock, populated with glass domes. With it's steam-punk feel, the Disneyland RR train passing through would feel right at home, as opposed to that messy Star Wars themed building.

It's also a strange time to build a Star Wars land - unless it would coincide with a film re-release. I feel about this the same way I feel about the whole Star Wars franchise - that it's a cow thats continuously over-milked.

[CafeFantasia]

I really don't believe these rumours about Star Wars Land. But, if it happens, fantastic. It sounds like a really good idea.

[Lorum]

I don't want Discoveryland to be destroyed. There are several ways of expanding a park. They should think of "The Little Mermaid", "Splash Mountain".

[CafeFantasia]

But this idea is quite clever. Star Tours clearly needs updating to Star Tours 2, and Captain EO is set to close with no obvious 3D film to replace it. So a great solution is to tie the whole area together with a Star Wars ride, show and restaurant.

[lauralouisemidwinter]

I don't want Discoveryland to be destroyed. There are several ways of expanding a park. They should think of "The Little Mermaid", "Splash Mountain".

Amen
I this before they start adding new 'Lands' we should finnaly be give Splash Mountain ( Disney Anahime version) and DEFFINATLY The Little Mermaid

[Columbiad]

But this idea is quite clever. Star Tours clearly needs updating to Star Tours 2, and Captain EO is set to close with no obvious 3D film to replace it. So a great solution is to tie the whole area together with a Star Wars ride, show and restaurant.

But why continue to fill a land with material that isn't theme-perfect and when there is plenty other material to draw on that better fits the theme of the land? Keep Star Tours and upgrade it - I'm happy with that. But adding more (I feel) would be sacrificing the brilliant, unique design and concept that Discoveryland has.