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Backlot to become Marvel Studio? (Rumour)

Postby |Q| » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:05 pm

Yesterday i've seen the Avengers movie, and it really looks like Marvel Studios has a nice cash cow in their hands (third biggest opening EVER in the UK).

On DCP, since a couple of weeks, they're talking about the rumor of a complete retheming of the backlot area into Marvel Studios lot.

If the movie gets as successful as it looks like (more than any other Marvel Studios movie til today), since they cannot yet put Marvel rides in the US (in Anaheim they don't really have much space, in Orlando most of the characters are still used in Island of Adventure, so Disney is still forbid to put them in their parks), I see Disney pushing forward their superheroes in our resort, and when they do it they must try to do better that Spider-Man at IoA. That would be pretty sweeet :P

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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby Anthony » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:09 am

Funny, I just came to post about about this. Although I think it's also being covered in the WDS revamp topic.

This behind the scenes video caught my attention. It's more like a sneak peek at what a Marvel Avengers Stunt Show Spectacular could look like...


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They even used the same man-falling-on-car trick!

Retheme the French sets to American city streets, put the stuntmen in Captain America costumes... easy. And so much better than a characterless (and I mean that in a lacking character, rather than lacking a franchise, sense) James Bond rip-off. Moteurs... Action! as it stands is very generic, really.

Armageddon would also be easy to retheme to Marvel. Rock 'n' Roller Coaster less so, especially since it's popular enough already. They'd be spending money where it doesn't really need to be spent. It's the exterior Backlot square area that needs work. But maybe tying it all together a Marvel superhero city would be the best way?
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby |Q| » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:07 am

Anthony wrote:Rock 'n' Roller Coaster less so, especially since it's popular enough already. They'd be spending money where it doesn't really need to be spent. It's the exterior Backlot square area that needs work. But maybe tying it all together a Marvel superhero city would be the best way?


I totally see it rethemed to the bifrost/rainbow bridge from Thor.

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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby Malin » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:07 pm

Well the Parks love to jump on the band wagon of a popular franchise. And Avengers looks like its going to be a big hit for Disney and Marvel. But I do have to question how Pixar would feel about a Marvel direction. Especially since John Lasseter loves to push his own ideas. I would not be against Marvel being used at the Studios and in my view out of all the parks this would be the best fit. But can we leave out Marvel and just have it themed to the Avengers instead. I wish they would add Avengers set peices to the Tram Tour. No one cares about Reign of Fire or Dinotopia.
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby |Q| » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:51 pm

Malin wrote:But can we leave out Marvel and just have it themed to the Avengers instead. I wish they would add Avengers set peices to the Tram Tour. No one cares about Reign of Fire or Dinotopia.


Uhm, i don't get it. How? I mean, you can do a "Marvel theme" without the Avengers, but you really can't do the other way around. Like saying "can we leave out Disney and just have it themed to Mickey and Donald instead"


Malin wrote:I wish they would add Avengers set peices to the Tram Tour. No one cares about Reign of Fire or Dinotopia.


I wish they get rid of the Tram Tour altogether.

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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby Malin » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:47 pm

Uhm, i don't get it. How? I mean, you can do a "Marvel theme" without the Avengers, but you really can't do the other way around. Like saying "can we leave out Disney and just have it themed to Mickey and Donald instead"


To clear up my confusion. I meant a theme for the Avengers without any of the other Marvel Characters like Spider Man and the X Men. Leave it Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and Hulk.
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby |Q| » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:56 pm

Malin wrote:To clear up my confusion. I meant a theme for the Avengers without any of the other Marvel Characters like Spider Man and the X Men. Leave it Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and Hulk.


well, yeah, of course it's in disney's best interest promote their own franchises. I think they're going for the characters that have already a "movie look" that they own, and not for a "comic book look" à là Island of Adventure:

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I mean... PLEASE NO!!! :shock:

(but i just can't wait to see Iron Man and Hulk as walkaround characters... freaking awesome is goin to be)

(if it comes true)

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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby ed-uk » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:09 pm

I don't know much about Marvel and I've never been a fan, but from what I can gather this could work out well for the WDS, if the movie/ franchise turns out to be big success for Disney, and I'm sure Disney want to make a big return on their investment. It could just be what WDS needs, and work well along side Pixar (another highly successful franchise) and Toon Studio, and get the crowds flooding through the gates.
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby mickeyspal » Thu May 03, 2012 8:31 pm

Malin wrote:Well the Parks love to jump on the band wagon of a popular franchise. And Avengers looks like its going to be a big hit for Disney and Marvel. But I do have to question how Pixar would feel about a Marvel direction. Especially since John Lasseter loves to push his own ideas. I would not be against Marvel being used at the Studios and in my view out of all the parks this would be the best fit. But can we leave out Marvel and just have it themed to the Avengers instead. I wish they would add Avengers set peices to the Tram Tour. No one cares about Reign of Fire or Dinotopia.


I agree; the Marvel heroes in the Avengers are very topical just now, and would be good to see something at the studios backlot. The tram tour is quite boring, only good part is the catastrophe canyon. We need more excitement on the tour to make it worthwhile.
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby disney-john » Sat May 05, 2012 4:42 pm

Think a Marvel zone In the studio would be great, Marvel has staying power, and a lot of history. Compared to the one-hit wonder that Avatar will turn out to be...
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby jj554 » Mon May 07, 2012 5:52 pm

The addition of Marvel characters and attractions would be a huge plus in my eyes. I love the films and I love the characters. I think it would draw in more male visitors, particularly around the late teens/early 20s, and help to show people that the park isn't just for kids. The movie has just had a record breaking opening weekend in the US and the Marvel brand is a sure fire money spinner for the park, not to mention the vast range of action figures, clothes and other merchandise that goes with it. I'd love to see a Marvel Vinylmation set!

Malin wrote: I wish they would add Avengers set peices to the Tram Tour. No one cares about Reign of Fire or Dinotopia.


I wholeheartedly agree. The tram tour is a great concept but the movies/shows featured are just not popular enough at all. It's embarrassing really. Some of the sets are impressive but you want something that gets people snapping away with their cameras saying "I love that movie!", not "Dino-what?". Armageddon is quite fun but a bit outdated in my opinion, and I agree that Moteurs is very generic and could do with livening up.
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby Anthony » Mon May 07, 2012 7:57 pm

It's funny there used to be such opposition to Marvel characters being integrated into a Disney park. I guess over the last few films people have been coming round to the idea, especially with the slightly Rocketeer-esque Captain America. Disney is finally getting to do what it's wanted to do for the past two decades with these huge blockbusters.

Anyway, I hope this seals the deal for park attractions:

The Avengers powers to US box office record

Hollywood adaptation of superhero comic overtakes Harry Potter finale with $200m takings

Hollywood's latest adaptation from the world of comics, The Avengers, has smashed the box office record for the biggest US opening weekend by a margin befitting a film trading heavily on cacophonous superhero-style walloping.

The $200.3m (£124m) debut is by far the biggest American opening to date, shooting past the $169.2m record for the debut of last year's Harry Potter finale. A $200m take from all new movies is considered a great weekend for the business as a whole, so The Avengers has effectively redefined the standards for a blockbuster debut.

The Avengers added $151.5m outside the US over the weekend. That raised the film's worldwide haul to $641.8m in barely a week and a half, more than its Marvel superhero forerunners, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor and Captain America, took during their entire runs.

How much did Reign of Fire make again...? ;)
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby CafeFantasia » Mon May 07, 2012 8:10 pm

Yeah, that will seal the deal for Marvel attractions in America. But, on the news today of Disneyland Paris making a huge loss, can we really expect any new attractions beyond Ratatouille?
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby Anthony » Mon May 07, 2012 9:06 pm

Well they still very specifically mention the "multi-year expansion of Walt Disney Studios Park", don't they?

People seem to be reading very glumly into those particular financial results. I wouldn't have expected any different during January to March, it was always going to be a lull before the 20th, but unfortunately the freezing weather and other things impacted results more than it should. On 1st April, everything changed. The resort practically re-opened again. We won't know until later this year whether it's really working...
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby jj554 » Mon May 07, 2012 9:21 pm

Anthony wrote:Well they still very specifically mention the "multi-year expansion of Walt Disney Studios Park", don't they?

People seem to be reading very glumly into those particular financial results. I wouldn't have expected any different during January to March, it was always going to be a lull before the 20th, but unfortunately the freezing weather and other things impacted results more than it should. On 1st April, everything changed. The resort practically re-opened again. We won't know until later this year whether it's really working...



Amen to that!

I know that those six months cover Christmas but really I assume that's where the bulk of the money will have come from, and either side of that are some pretty dreary months - November, January and February. So December has to provide a significant portion of that revenue.

Fingers crossed for some better numbers come six months time to reflect high season and the launch of the 20th!
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby Josh » Mon May 07, 2012 10:38 pm

Anthony wrote:Well they still very specifically mention the "multi-year expansion of Walt Disney Studios Park", don't they?

I actually think they really could be referring to a massive expansion project. I don't know whether you've read the last pages of the 20th anniversary book yet, but they say that -- in the future -- they want people to be planning on going just to the WDSP for a day-out and then going home without even stepping foot in the Disneyland Park. The park is going to "grow up to twice its present size". I think they're alluding to something more short-term. After this year, I think they'll announce their expansion plans. (They may even surprise us and tell us in the up-coming shareholders' meeting, but it's unlikely.)
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Re: Backlot conversion into Marvel area (rumor)

Postby mco65 » Sun May 13, 2012 3:53 pm

changing backlots would be a refreshing change.. there is a ton of room back there... :thumbs:
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Re: Backlot to become Marvel Studio? (Rumour)

Postby |Q| » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:50 pm

Some Belgian newspaper says that Spider-Man is coming to WDS.

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I don't really see it likely... Why promote a Sony franchise, when they have their Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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Re: Backlot to become Marvel Studio? (Rumour)

Postby disney-john » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:07 pm

Cos Disney owns marvel, and Sony pay marvel to use spiderman, so all money returns to Disney..... I think
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Re: Backlot to become Marvel Studio? (Rumour)

Postby CafeFantasia » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:13 pm

Over on Twitter I posted a link to the full article translated into English:

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